The Greatest Debate In The History Of Humanity!

The Greatest Debate In The History Of Humanity!

John 21:16-17

15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Now if you just read this as it is, it makes no sense. Why would Jesus ask the same question THREE TIMES and have Peter reply and then Peter becomes grieved? Did this imply that Jesus did not believe Peter’s answer, or is there something much deeper going on here? You cannot find out unless you do word studies to see that what Jesus is really asking is this: “Are you BORN FROM ABOVE PETER?” Peter avoids that question and says that HIS LOVE TYPE is IDENTICAL TO THE LORD’S LOVE TYPE!

This answer Peter gives is what almost all of Christianity would say to Jesus today as they are led away into eternal ruin, not even knowing why that is so. This debate between Jesus and Peter concerns A LOVE TYPE ISSUE. Humanity’s LOVE TYPES vs. GOD’S LOVE. They are radically different, in point of fact, so different there is NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO. God’s LOVE TYPE is so much HIGHER than ours that we cannot comprehend it in the flesh. We lose, God wins.

Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.


This all began at the fall, when Eve and Adam ate of the tree of GOOD & EVIL and underwent a drastic DNA change,  That event totally and completely CUT US OFF from God’s DIVINE LOVE. It vanished and is now hidden away from all of humanity. In fact, it is called A MYSTERY. A mystery is something you have to search for, because it is HIDDEN, LOCKED AWAY! That is why Jesus commanded us to ASK, SEEK, KNOCK, STRIVE, LABOR, CONTINUE IN HIS DOCTRINE. It is all about FINDING THE SECRET OF WHO JESUS CHRIST REALLY IS!!

John 21:15  SoG3767 whenG3753 they had dined,G709 JesusG2424 saithG3004 to SimonG4613 Peter,G4074 Simon,G4613 son of Jonas,G2495 lovestG25 thou meG3165 moreG4119 than these?

You need to pay very close attention here. The word “lovest” is STRONG’S #25, and Strong’s #25 is AGAPE. Strong’s has been recently watered down from the original version as the TRUTH is being hidden more and more. That is why I tell people to find and get the OLDEST STRONG’S concordance one can find. Vines is also very important and has a long explanation as to how AGAPE came into being. The long and short of it was that NO ONE KNEW HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS HIGHEST OF ALL LOVE TYPES, A LOVE WAY ABOVE ANYTHING MANKIND CAN COMPREHEND. So the word “agape” was brought into being. Obviously we are speaking here of DIVINE AGAPE, THE LOVE OF GOD.

Now see how Peter answers Jesus’s question:

HeG5130 saithG3004 unto him,G846 Yea,G3483 Lord;G2962 thouG4771 knowestG1492 thatG3754 I loveG5368 thee.G4571 He saithG3004 unto him,G846 FeedG1006 myG3450 lambs.G721

This word for LOVE is totally different. We are dealing with a debate between TWO LOVE TYPES, one AGAPE and the other PHILEO, which is brotherly love, or we could say an EARTHLY LOVE TYPE vs. a HEAVENLY LOVE TYPE.




From G5384; to be a friend to (fond of [an individual or an object]), that is, have affection for (denoting personal attachment, as a matter of sentiment or feeling..”

It appears that Jesus is having none of Peter’s answer and so asks him again the SAME QUESTION with the SAME LOVE TYPES, Jesus’s DIVINE LOVE vs. Peter’s EARTHLY BROTHERLY LOVE.

John 21:16  He saithG3004 to himG846 againG3825 the second time,G1208 Simon,G4613 son of Jonas,G2495 lovestG25 thou me?

HeG3165 saithG3004 unto him,G846 Yea,G3483 Lord;G2962 thouG4771 knowestG1492 thatG3754 I loveG5368 thee.G4571 He saithG3004 unto him,G846 FeedG4165 myG3450 sheep.G4263

Jesus gets the same answer back as before. it is GOD’S LOVE vs. HUMAN LOVE. They are not the same at all. We were cut off from God’s love at the fall and know IT NOT, it is not part of our nature anymore. That is why TRUE REBIRTH IS SO IMPORTANT, and also why the multitudes in Matthew Seven are sent away – they did not have it! They were NOT BORN AGAIN.

John 21:17  He saithG3004 unto himG846 theG3588 third time,G5154 Simon,G4613 son of Jonas,G2495 lovestG5368 thou me?G3165

Now notice what happens now. Jesus switches the LOVE TYPES and ask Peter if he has any brotherly love Him. Do you see? Peter now becomes grieved, upset, and FINALLY ADMITS that all he has for Jesus is BROTHERLY LOVE, not the TYPE OF LOVE that Christ has!!

PeterG4074 was grievedG3076 becauseG3754 he saidG2036 unto himG846 theG3588 third time,G5154 LovestG5368 thou me?G3165

AndG2532 he saidG2036 unto him,G846 Lord,G2962 thouG4771 knowestG1492 all things;G3956 thouG4771 knowestG1097 thatG3754 I loveG5368 thee.G4571 JesusG2424 saithG3004 unto him,G846 FeedG1006 myG3450 sheep.G4263

This is CODE TALK for two radically different LOVE TYPES and humanity does NOT HAVE, NOR CAN COMPREHEND THE LOVE OF GOD. This is WHY God has to be searched out and FOUND. We could say that Jesus was asking Peter if he was BORN AGAIN, REGENERATED in the love of God, that which was lost at the fall and Peter finally recognized what was being said and was grieved by it.

1 John 3:1-3

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Now lets take a look at what is really being said. We must look at the words BEHOLD, MANNER, LOVE & BESTOWED. All of these are tied directly to being BORN AGAIN, for that is what makes us a SON OF GOD.

First, the word behold:





A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: – be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot.

This LOVE TYPE is so different it MUST BE SHOWN TO THE BELIEVER, similar to the word KNOW      . It means that humanity HAS TO BE SHOWN IT BY DIVINE REVEALTION in order to KNOW the MSYTERY.

Now the word MANNER:





Apparently from G4219 and the base of G4226; interrogitive whatever, that is, of what possible sort: – what (manner of).

Total KJV occurrences: 7

We could say WHAT TYPE OF LOVE THIS IS, or of WHAT SORT OF LOVE THIS IS. There are many LOVE TYPES, so it is imperative we KNOW and UNDERSTAND what type of love this is. IT IS DIVINE LOVE. IT IS DIVINE AGAPE.






From G25; love, that is, affection or benevolence; specifically (plural) a love feast:(feast of) charity ([-ably]), dear, love.

Total KJV occurrences: 116

G26 MEANS divine agape because we are dealing with GOD’S SPECIAL LOVE TYPE.






A prolonged form of a primary verb (which is used as an alternate in most of the tenses); to give (used in a very wide application, properly or by implication, literally or figuratively; greatly modified by the connection): – adventure, bestow, bring forth, commit, deliver (up), give, grant, hinder, make, minister, number, offer, have power, put, receive, set, shew, smite (+ with the hand), strike (+ with the palm of the hand), suffer, take, utter, yield.

We can conclude with what Jesus told us was the ONLY THING that condemns humanity. THERE IS ONLY ONE CONDEMNATION. ONLY ONE. HE WOULD NOT COME TO THE LIGHT, and the light was of course DIVINE LOVE, who is JESUS CHRIST. JOHN 3:19-21

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.





From an obsoleteφάω phaō (to shine or make manifest, especially by rays; compare G5316 and G5346); luminousness (in the widest application, natural or artificial, abstract or concrete, literal or figurative): – fire, light.

Christianity today is doing great earthly works but has skipped over the essential items of TRUE REBIRTH, TRUE REGENERATION. They will not come to the LIGHT OF DIVINE LOVE and have their deeds reproved. They skipped over JUDGMENT and LOVE which is the essential part before REBIRTH.

Many so-called “experts” have attempted to claim that all of these love types are the same. They are LIARS and deceive multitudes. The love of God is so much higher than ANYTHING humanity has and totally proves these people have never met Jesus Christ and had HIM SHOW THEM HIS LOVE. There are no human words to describe the LOVE OF GOD, hence they made up a word for it.

The divine agape love of God IS the LIGHT we are to come to to have our love types JUDGED and then REPLACED AT REBIRTH. This is now all totally denied by Satan’s angels of light. Humanity is condemned and Jesus clearly said so. He said He did not come into the world to condemn it, because it was condemned already. He came to SAVE, to RESCUE us.

Two angels were looking down upon the world and one said to the other, “humanity really is very sick, perverted and it is so sad…”

The other angel replied, “What is even more sad is that they will not ADMIT IT, so they could be saved…”

You can take this or leave it, your FREE WILL CHOICE, but if I were you, I would drop everything and START THE JOURNEY AND ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE AND WALK THE NARROW WAY AND COME TO THE LIGHT.

I have but one question to ask. Why would God have to bestow or GIVE it to us if we ALREADY HAD IT? Something to ponder.



3 thoughts on “The Greatest Debate In The History Of Humanity!

  1. Thank you once again for these refresher courses Stew. They take me back to those early days when I couldn’t drink it in fast enough. The Lord said He’d take you down a way you know not and it’s been an awe filled journey. Scripture is like an old friend; someone you can reminisce with and feel at home, while waiting for the revelation.


  2. Yes, this is the question and the issue. The terrifying reality is that just about no one dwelling on Earth grasps this. Also, in my journey, I have not seen a great concern about the need on an individual basis amongst those converted. No one, it seems, is losing any sleep over this. Like it’s not a driver…thanks for not giving up in the warnings and call to obey Jesus Christ’s commandments and follow Him.


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