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April 9, 2015

 

 

 

Submitted on 2015/04/09 at 12:12 am

You said that faith is only half the equation so it is a lie. I believe that faith is not a lie but is the most important evidence that you are a genuine Christian…as the Bible clearly teaches. So I’m not sure why you seem so opposed to the word “faith”. We pass from death to life when we believe in Christ…that is by faith.

(I am not opposed to faith or belief, I am opposed to the CONCEPT and INTERPRETATION of what true faith is – which is a DYNAMIC FORCE not some static easy chair “I believe therefore I am saved”. Faith, if TRUE, is the dynamic force that propels one to be OBEDIENT to ENTER IN, TO SEEK, ASK, KNOCK and STRIVE to find Christ!!

Noah believed God and did so enough, ie, had total faith in what he had been told so HE DID SOMETHING, he built an ark to the saving of his family. In other words, to Noah, his faith was a dynamic force that propelled him to actually DO SOMETHING, which was to BUILD THE ARK. Noah did NOT sit around in an easy chair and “believe” that some Ark would appear and he had to do nothing! All concepts of faith shown in the Bible are ACTION not “believing” something.

We must first of all BELIEVE that GOD IS and that He   rewards those that DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM OUT. So here you have it – NO REWARD UNLESS YOU SEEK HIM OUT – so there is an ACTION HERE, and true belief is what sets that person to SEEK. – scb_

 

John 5: , verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

(You leave out Matthew where Jesus says If you hear His words and DON’T DO THEM, then you are a fool who built his house upon the sand.

And this:

“Why do you call me Lord, Lord and NOT DO what I say?”

The key word here is actually heareth because if you actually HEARD WHAT HE SAID, you would become obedient and DO THEM. The modern Christian only hears what they want to hear, and disregards the rest of it. They have ears to hear but do not hear. If you hear the Word of Christ, REALLY HEAR IT, then you will ENTER IN and FIND CHRIST. Seek and you SHALL FIND, KNOCK and it WILL BE OPENED, ASK and it will be given to you. Look up the words for FIND, OPENED, GIVEN. All of them mean you FOUND SOMETHING. iT IS NOT AN ACT OF FAITH!! It is the OPPOSITE OF FAITH. Faith propels you to do as commanded and when you have FOUND IT, you KNOW and from then on out it is a combination of FAITH and KNOWING. – scb)

 

1 John 5: 4  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

(FAITH is the DYNAMIC ACTION VERB HERE. Overcometh means to have fought a major battle and won it. You cannot just take these verses by themselves, you have to bring all of together to obtain the true harmony of the Bible. It is the over comer that has entered in, walked the narrow way and found LIFE, that is TRUE REBIRTH, and REBIRTH, if you will look it up, means UNION WITH CHRIST, i.e, you have FOUND YOUR RANSOM.

JESUS SENDS MILLIONS of Christians away in Matthew Seven for only one reason, they DID NOT ENTER IN, THEY NEVER FOUND HIM, and so He says to them, I NEVER “EXPERIENTIALLY” CAME TO KNOW YOU. They never ENTERED IN, and they NEVER FOUND HIM. – scb)

Romans 1:16,17 16  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

(Go into Hebrews read what faith really is. – scb)

Also….I find your attitude abrasive rather than kind and the agape love that you speak of seems to be missing from your speech when you refer in a derogatory way to some as “brainless”.

2 Timothy 2: 24  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

(If telling the truth is abrasive, I am sure I will hear about it at my judgment – I had a friend who brought a man over to my house to discuss salvation. I welcomed him into my home, gave him coffee and food and sat with him for a number of hours. When riding back to his house, he told my friend, “that man has no love in him at all.” or something to that effect. Why? Because he did not like the answers I gave him out of the Bible. He was offended by them, maybe never heard of them in his church. But the truth is, out of LOVE I sat with him and opened up the Scripture to him – and I was gentle about it. – but it is what it is. – scb)

You asked if you were right. I’d like to join with others in saying…Stewart, you’re right…but if you are placing yourself and your followers above others because you have done something right “gone through the narrow gate or gone to the pit”…that’s pride.

In the first place, The Lord took me to the cross, I had nothing to do with it, so where is their any pride? You totally misinterpret almost everything.  -scb)

Entering the narrow gate is but one example that Christ gives of what happens when we put our faith and trust in Him and believe his word. There is not one thing that you can do to satisfy the righteous requirements of God. It is our faith in Christ’s finished work that saves us.

(What you are saying here is that obedience to “enter in”, and also “study to show yourself approved” unto God is a work, and that one is attempting to prove something to God so they are accepted. Entering in has nothing to do with any of that, it is “obedience” and doing what Christ commended we all do – ENTER IN AT THE STRAIT GATE. If you really believe God, I mean really believe, you WILL do what He commands.

“If you CONTINUE in MY DOCTRINE, you will FIND THE TRUTH, and THE TRUTH will set you FREE.”

Sounds to me like we are to continue in His doctrine, that is, study to show ourselves approved, and if we will, we WILL FIND THE TRUTH, that is there is a FINDING, A KNOWING, and a UNION with Christ that is fully experiential. At this point of UNION, look it up for yourself. – scb)

 

What still continues to concern me here is the teaching that has set your group apart from the rest of Christianity and especially the word “faith” seems despised by you.

I would hope I have set some people apart from the REST OF CHRISTIANITY, because modern Christianity is a LIE and takes you to eternal ruin, and the Bible says it is over and over and over again. If you will not hear the warnings of Christ, Peter, John, Paul and the others, then you will not hear them.

 

It’s in the Bible, Stewart, from one end to the other. It’s from start to finish…by faith….in this life. We don’t get special knowledge or tangible evidence apart from the Word of God until we reach heaven.

(YOU ARE TO FIND YOUR RANSOM, you are TO FIND CHRIST. You are to COME TO HIM, not just have FAITH in Him. He commanded you to PICK UP YOUR CROSS AND DIE, and in death, in the lowest room, the pit, you shall sit until He that bade you to the wedding comes to you, that is APPEARS TO YOU, and says “Friend, come up higher”. There are multitudes of verses all over the New Testament concerning the REVELATION of Christ to the OBEDIENT believer. Indeed, you are to obtain very a SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE if you are to saved IN TRUTH. Read Pilgrim’s Progress for example!!

I ask you to order “THE MYSTERY OF CHRIST” and prove it wrong. If you can do so, I will refund your money.

You deny so much scripture here that I don’t know how to answer. Believe what you will, I warned you, and your blood is not on my hands. If you think I am arrogant, a liar, or whatever, so be it. You do not know me at all. – scb)

 

And that’s a fact. I’ve used Scripture to prove my point. And if you need more Scripture on the word “faith”…there’s plenty more.

(The debate is not over “faith” it is over what TYPE OF FAITH one accepts. Modern Christianity has changed the definition of faith from a dynamic force over to “easy believeism”

That is “if I believe, I am saved.” Not so, because the multitudes rejected by Christ BELIEVED, and HAD FAITH, even enough faith to cast out demons, perform miracles, etc. They were NOT SAVED. They only thought they were. actually were positive they were, only to find out they were not. Billy Graham Christians – the most popular evangelists in history, loved by the Church, world leaders, etc. So how is it then that Jesus told us if you were telling the REAL TRUTH, you would be hated, reviled, and spit upon, when Billy is so popular with everyone? Someone is not telling truth here, but I think Jesus is. – scb)

 

 

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“Okay Stewart, I just unsubscribed to your newsletter. You are truly a high-and-mighty self-proclaimed Watchman just like your contemporaries, the “rock stars”: Steve Quayle, the Hags, Hawk, Garrison, Larry Taylor, etc. You are a legend in your own mind and you are always right and claim God-given right to throw rocks at any whom you choose, because you have a computer and know how to use it. You don’t know me, and you have no right to speak to me the way you did, however this IS typical retaliation one receives when a “rock star” is questioned, even if they ask for input. I’m tired of you beating up your readers, and you guys all do it, to a man, to keep yourself elevated above everyone else. There are none righteous, none like you! Jesus threw stones 1 time… for good cause. You do it weekly, AT your own faithful readers. Your son was kind in his response to you, as I tried to be also. Many others have simply voted with their feet, I’m sure you’ve noticed…”

So now the name calling begins – high and mighty self-proclaimed watchman. I have NEVER said I was a watchman, because there is no such designation given in the New Testament, only in the Old. I am a researcher and a researcher only. I cannot control what others say I am. I am here only to GET PEOPLE TO READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES.

I am a legend in my own mind? Do you have any idea what going to the CROSS OF CHRIST does to you? Evidently not. Anyone who has truly gone to the cross of Christ is not only NOT a legend in their own mind, they KNOW what awful, despicable, rotten to the core the flesh is. It is the direct opposite of arrogance or “legend in your own mind”.

I am NEVER said I was right, NOT EVER. I have repeatedly told people, begged people, to NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING I SAY, but GO THE BIBLE AND LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF.

I do not believe I am beating up my readers, because my readers already know the truth and do not need to be beaten up – most of my blogs are directed outwards, to those who ARE NOT BIBLE BELIEVERS. The “you” in my latest blog was directed at the rulers and authorities of America – but it does apply as well to many people because they have allowed all of this to go on without rising up to stop it. Evil wins because good people do nothing to stop it.

I have never ever said I was RIGHTEOUS, just the opposite MANY TIMES. I am the worst example of a Christian there is, mostly because I have been called to the JUDGMENT SIDE OF THIS, not the MERCY SIDE. As the Bible says, there are none righteous, only the Lord.

There are two sides to the Spirit of the Lord, and I have been called to the JUDGMENT SIDE, the reason being that JUDGMENT PRECEDES MERCY, which is something modern Christian theology totally ignore, to their own peril. Because there appears to be NO JUDGMENT, then there is apostasy, because judgment brings TRUTH, and apostasy brings ERROR. The judgment against America and her people is more severe that what has gone before, because they had all the blessings of the Lord, and are now going through the CURSES of the Lord – all found in Deuteronomy 28. No one can fathom the depth of the horrific future that awaits the American people. You can call upon the Lord, receive all His blessings, then turn your back and STRIVE AGAINST THE LORD and expect ANYTHING BUT SEVERE AND TOTAL JUDGMENT.

Salvation does not come before JUDGMENT is rendered. Judgment is rendered via the STRAIT GATE and NARROW WAY, there is no other way, Jesus did not give us ANY alternatives. Am I to be blamed for warning you all concerning this? I know of what I speak here, for the Lord showed me, and I walked the walk as others have and can testify to what I have testified to. THERE IS NO SALVATION without JUDGMENT, and JUDGMENT BRINGS US DOWN TO THE PIT OF DEATH, for that is what Jesus clearly taught the Holy Spirit’s job was – to JUDGE us of SIN, RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUDGMENT. Look up the word judgment – it is an eye-opener.

None of this is WHAT I BELIEVE, it is WHAT I KNOW FOR A FACT. I am not being arrogant, actually just the opposite. If I did not have multitudes of Scripture to back me up, well, I would be a false prophet, liar and a deceiver – but I know the Lord will vindicate what I have said, and I have attempted to do as the Lord as told me to do. I do not pretend to be an “Ezekiel” or even come remotely close, but the judgment of Ezekiel upon his nation is no different than the judgment upon America and her people:

Ezekiel’s Call to Be a Prophet

“2 He said to me, “Son of man,[a] stand up on your feet and I will speak to you.” As he spoke, the Spirit came into me and raised me to my feet, and I heard him speaking to me.

He said: “Son of man, I am sending you to the Israelites (Americans) , to a rebellious nation that has rebelled against me; they and their ancestors have been in revolt against me to this very day. The people to whom I am sending you are obstinate and stubborn. Say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says.’ And whether they listen or fail to listen—for they are a rebellious people—they will know that a prophet has been among them. And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns are all around you and you live among scorpions. Do not be afraid of what they say or be terrified by them, though they are a rebellious people. 7 You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or fail to listen, for they are rebellious. But you, son of man, listen to what I say to you. Do not rebel like that rebellious people; open your mouth and eat what I give you.”

Then I looked, and I saw a hand stretched out to me. In it was a scroll, 10 which he unrolled before me. On both sides of it were written words of lament and mourning and woe.”

So evidently I am not supposed to tell the American people the Word of God, because they are a rebellious people. But the future of the American people is one of tears, sorrows, lamentations and “woe is me”, Millions will descend to their death unsaved. Why? Because of the modern day preachers, teachers and evangelists who do not know the Lord and are liars and deceivers.

I have no special gift here, anyone can see it that WANTS TO. There are no excuses in this land, the Gospel has been preached, Bibles are everywhere one wants to find them, but that has been rejected. If one thinks my statements are harsh, one should read what the Lord says about the American people – I make no apologies for stating that the huge majority of Americans are totally comatose, blind, and apostates, meaning “brainless” when it comes to the things of the Lord. The Lord says they are, and also says that JUDGMENT COMETH.

So if you think I am throwing stones, so be it. There will be no LOVE, NO COMPASSION, and NO MERCY shown the American people when this thing strikes. It is all there in the prophecies against America-Babylon, and we have now entered BABYLONIAN TWILIGHT, and SOON DARKNESS COMES.

 

 

 

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  1. April 9, 2015 5:05 pm

    I can see people like laura, are misinterpreting what is said, redemption is achieved by first believing one needs it due to “all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” including me, thus we confess we’ve sinned to Yahuah, and ask that He cleanse us in the blood of His only begotten son, Yahshua,. Unfortunately as Stew points out, modern Christianity believes that’s it, and basically enters a state of arrested development. Once we understand that we’re to actively take up our cross, die to the carnal man daily, and learn how to co operate with God to see Him transform us “little by little, line upon line, precept upon precept” – thus indicating that working out our salvation as Paul wrote, is an ongoing progressive work, so that even Paul said he didn’t count himself as having arrived but pressed on to the higher calling in Messiah Yahshua. James said “faith without works (action) is dead”. What expression does love between two people take? It begins with a commitment, signified by a ring of promiose, followed by formalising it in marriage, but then the real working out of that love begins, as they daily have to learn to become one, to overcome that which could be cause for division, strife, and eventual split up.
    So one enters into the redemptive plan by confession, repentance, and then one must continue daily to become one with Him to the point where as He said to the disciples “I only do what my Father shows me to, I only say what my Father shows me to do, my will is to the will of my Father who sent me, I and the Father are one”.
    This is the goal which I never learned in church, and after 40 yr or so in the wilderness, like the Israelites of old, I am asking God to help me daily, to grow into a deeper relationship with Elohim, so that I can say with Paul, that I am crucified with Christ, I no longer live, but Christ (Messiah) lives in me, and I press on to the higher calling for which He has redeemed me”

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  2. April 9, 2015 4:38 pm

    Stewart in all the years that I have been studying the teaching you share with as many as will hear, you ALWAYS state, “Don’t take my word, search it out for yourself “. The word of God is opened up to any one to see the hidden mystery within it, behind all that is and with the help of the Holy Spirit lead us to the light of Christ so that our deeds/works are exposed to show us just how fraudulent our heart is. The word of God says that He, Holy Spirit will convict us of sin, righteousness and judgment, which for me says that nothing I can do with my “good and kind ” heart will measure up to the standard of God’s divine pure love. Because it can only be bestowed to me from God through Jesus Christ when He and I meet face to face, for the supernatural marriage union, which is why Jesus said “You/I MUST BE BORN AGAIN”. I pondered that verse many times over the years, and then it hit me the conditional word in the midst of the command “MUST”! It hit me like a truck filled with bricks, I am not and have never been “SAVED”.

    I was taught confess, believe and receive and live right, be like Jesus. Treat people right, do unto others as you would have them do to you, fast, pray, read your bible, assemble with the saints via Sunday observance, bible study, etc. I did all of that from my heart knowingly and sincerely from a very young age into my adulthood, now 50 years. I was devastated to find out that after all those faithful years of serving God, as taught that I had no real evidence that I knew Jesus or that he knew me. I have experienced being in a physical marriage union and I have evidence of this union, but I have nothing to prove a union with Christ. All my years of believing and doing has not produced any evidence and to say that I love God with all my heart now is fraudulent, because I realized I had not fulfilled the condition commanded by God, whom I say I love. When all is said and done, what or where is my proof of true biblical salvation. Is believing and having faith my evidence? If I go to the supernatural court of God and stand before Him to be judged, will my faith in believing that He is God be enough for acquittal? Will all the work I’ve done speak for me? What can I say or do outside of being obedient to His sayings and experiencing Christ that will justify my name being written in the book of life? Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER, *BUT* BY ME. IF you HAD known me, you SHOULD HAVE known my Father also: and from henceforth you know Him, and HAVE SEEN HIM.” (John 14:6-7, 21) He that HAS MY COMMANDMENTS, AND KEEPS THEM, HE IT IS THAT (AGAPE) LOVES ME: and he that (Agape) love WILL be (Agape) loved of my Father, and I will (Agape) love him, AND WILL MANIFEST (REVEAL)MYSELF TO HIM.”
    (v.23) Jesus said, “IF a man love me, he will KEEP my words: and my Father will love him, and WE WILL COME TO HIM, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM”. (Heb.3:12, 13; 12:25) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called Today; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. See that you REFUSE NOT him that speaks. For IF they ESCAPED NOT who REFUSED him that spoke on earth, much more WILL WE NOT ESCAPE, IF WE TURN AWAY FROM HIM THAT SPEAKS FROM HEAVEN.”
    Upon meditating on this scripture, plus many more my heart was convicted and awakened to a truth that I had no evidence of ever meeting Christ or having He and the Father take up residence within me. I began to question what I had been convinced of. Was it simply positive, magical faith and believing that I had something, a relationship with Christ, that didn’t exist? The void I have been trying to fill with faith, believing the scriptures and doing the work and will of God, is it not showing his love or enough? Why still, did I feel empty and as though all I knew was a lie and that something was missing? I can blame no one but myself, because the same words in the bible (s) that Stewart has been teaching from after having the truth revealed to him, I am responsible for working out my own salvation with fear and trembling. I am to make my calling and election sure, I am to have my faith tested whether it is saving faith or not. So far, I have missed the mark and I am without excuse. I must search for Christ while there is yet time, because time is short and we can not afford to dismiss or be dismissive of others who have experienced what we are searching for. Unless you have proof that you have obtained God’s love, spiritual nature through a supernatural encounter with Christ, you should not be throwing stones. It is always interesting to read someone’s responses to a biblical teaching/warning and they try to use the scriptures out of context to defend themselves. God’s judicial court existed before the world’s judicial system and just as you must provide evidence and witnesses here, you just PAUSE and ask yourself what is your evidence and WHO ARE YOUR WITNESSES BEFORE GOD. Will Jesus confess your name before His Father without evidence of true salvation or knowing you through union? Are you willing to gamble or roll the dice with your faith and believing? I’m not!! Jesus said, you say I am rich and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and do not know that you are wretched, and miserable, and poor and blind, and naked:
    I counsel you to buy OF ME gold (faith) tried in the fire, that you MAY BE rich; and white raiment, that you MAY BE clothed, and that the shame of your nakedness does not appear: and anoint your eyes with eyesalve, that you MAY SEE. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be ZEALOUS therefore and REPENT. Behold(See), I stand at the door, and knock; IF any man HEAR MY VOICE, AND OPEN THE DOOR(OBEY AND DO), I WILL COME IN TO HIM AND will sup (dine) WITH him, and he WITH ME(Union). (Rev. 3:17-20) This is what I am searching to experience and receive this evidence, along with others and had we not been opened to hear what was revealed to Stewart and continued to follow the majority we would be lost for all eternity with our works or kind and good deeds, thoughts, etc. Find the truth for yourself and know that the truth hurts, but it is necessary. Thank you Stewart for all you do. God bless.

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  3. April 9, 2015 2:24 pm

    Is your head hurting Stewart, cause mine is after reading the article. I do not know how many times one has to read what you say before they understand. I read what you comment on, and then I look it up in the Bible to validate what is there. You have Never misled me, only guided me to the truth. Thank you for ringing my bell.

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    April 9, 2015 12:13 pm

    Stewart, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I agree that faith is not “arm-chair-kick off your shoes-nothing else to do-easy believism”. It is “study to show yourself approved-search out for yourself and follow an individual relationship with Christ” faith.

    You said that we have to battle. Christ already won the battle. Faith in Christ is the victory…..period. We don’t have to fight any fight except the fight of faith.

    A good question to ask is “what or who is the object of my faith? It’s not for us to figure out what TYPE of faith we have. The Bible does not say type of faith, it says “faith” in Christ. And that’s why we are set apart, but not in small groups. We are set apart by the Holy Spirit who is our guide and teacher. The Scriptures come alive when Christ is the object of our faith. We find out Who He is, What he has done for us and where our faith should rest.

    It is so easy for false teachers to divert professing Christians from a solid faith in the Word. It now becomes a faith in what they are doing…i.e. those who professed Christ but the “signs and wonders movement, the New Apostolic Prophets movement and/or the Contemplative New Age teachings became the new object of their faith. In other words, they themselves and what they were doing became the object of their faith. Or the spirit guides that were only too happy to meet with them and give them new revelation.

    And Christ tells them, “I never knew you”.

    And there are so many things we can get our eyes on these days, from Purpose Driven Rick to Bible Scholar Hebrew Roots people who like to make the Torah the object of our faith. Christ then becomes another Christ and the gospel then becomes another gospel.

    Since Scripture is our best defense I will end with this passage.

    Galatians 3:11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
    Galatians 3:21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

    Galatians 3:26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Galatians 1:6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

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    • April 9, 2015 4:20 pm

      No, no no— don’t be mislead—Sorry, but you are wrong that the Bible only says faith “in” Jesus Christ.
      Here is the proof. : Romans 3:22 “…which is by the faith “”of”” Jesus unto…” Gal 2:16 “,,,but by the fath “”of” Jesus Christ””,…”, be justified by the faith ‘”of'” Christ,”, vs. 20, ” I live by the faith ‘”of'” the Son of God,…” vs.22 “…the promise by faith ‘”of'” Jesus Christ.” Eph. 3:12 “…with confidence by the faith'”of'” him.”, 4:14 “..we all come in the unity ‘”of'” the faith,..” Ph’p 3:9 “..which is of the faith ‘”of'” Christ,…” 2Th. 1:11 “..and the work ‘”of'” faith with power:..” 1Ti 6:12 “Fight the fight ‘”of'” faith, lay hold..” Tit 1:1 “..according to the faith ‘”of'” God’s elect,..” Heb 6:1 “..dead works, and ‘”of'” faith towards God,..” 11:13 These all died “in ” faith, not having,.. Jas 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith “of” our..” vs.14 “..have not works? can faith save him?” vs:24 “..man is justified, and not by faith only.” Re. 14:12 “..of God, and the faith ‘”of'” Jesus.”

      We are have the same faith that Jesus had, and be willing to die this supernatural death in order for Christ to manifest Himself ,”in person”, to the believer who are the and obideint ones and who do the work of faith. Are you willing to go to hell in order to find Jesus?

      “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.” Mat 10:38

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  5. April 9, 2015 11:41 am

    Discussing this post with a friend. What I want to clarify is this: Do you believe that salvation is a one time instantaneous experience that is by grace through faith alone?? Or, do you believe that salvation is something that is not by grace through faith alone… but is by your own effort or work that is not just faith alone??

    It sounds as if you are saying that salvation is a “process” rather than a one time event in experience.

    It sounds as if you are saying that you become sanctified by your works… and your sanctification is your salvation.

    It sounds as if you are saying that people who had real, living, viable salvation in Jesus Christ go to hell because they were not “sanctified enough”.

    It’s as if you are saying we are “born-again” by our works… rather than in a supernatural experience wrought by the Holy Spirit in us in His own power by grace alone.

    So, it sounds like you are saying that people were literally born-again in a supernatural experience wrought by the Holy Spirit… and end up on the left of Jesus Christ because they did not do not enough works.

    What you are saying is not clear… so I need clarification to understand if I believe you are espousing the Roman Catholic doctrine of salvation by works.

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  6. April 9, 2015 10:57 am

    We are saved by grace through faith. That dynamic action is all the work of the Holy Spirit in us. We are born of the Spirit. Thus, we are the righteousness of God in Christ in spirit born of God. It is finished. Done!

    No works can save us. Only the work of the Holy Spirit by grace through faith.

    The Holy Spirit will do His work in us… we will be lead and guided by Him… and He will work His works in and through us.

    So, it’s not we hear, we believe, then we work for our salvation.

    No Christian who is born of the Spirit will be on the left of Jesus on Judgment Day… only those who were not born-again and never really knew Him.

    Those on the left of Jesus will be those who thought they “did it themselves!”… and sought a works based righteousness rather than the righteousness that comes by the hearing of faith.

    Are you saved??

    Meaning, do you believe that it is the obedience of Jesus that is your salvation… or do you think it is your own… thus your own works that save you??

    It’s all or nothing.

    It is either a perfect salvation wrought by God in us… or none of us will ever make it.

    Confidence in the flesh and one’s own righteousness… is the confidence of those on the left on Judgment Day.

    Please clarify….

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